• What is it about boxing that attracted you?

I was Director of a Salvation Army Community Center and decided to bring in boxing as an activity.

I called Joe Lopez for help with the amateurs which started a great program. I can remember when Robert

Quiroga, a small young boy, walked into the gym.

• What do you think about the way the amateurs are scored?

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I worked many years with South Texas Amateur Boxing, the second largest in the United States. I judged local and national events. We used paper for a long time. Then we went to clickers to count points on the state level because of the lack of computers to do computer scoring. Computer scoring requires extremely quick reflexes

in order to score the correct boxer all at the same time.  Not all officials have these skills even at the Olympic level. I think North, Central and South American boxers are trained in a style to box their opponents. European and other countries are trained to box according to the computer. I feel that judges should use paper scoring, and that an international organization needs to be established to oversee the integrity of amateur boxing.

• If you could change something about the sport what would it be?

All top level boxers as well as our national amateur champions need to be promoted and provided with an opportunity to participate in excellent organizations such as the NABF as soon a possible.

Good completion between boxers of our sport is the key to success.

• Do you think that re certification is important and if so, how often?

Re certification at least every two years is essential in order to maintain knowledge of rules and

regulations.  I feel that every official at the profession level in the United States should certified.

• Is there such a thing as a neutral judge?

No

• What was the most exciting fight you ever judged?

Pacquiao and Barrera

• Your worst moment at a fight?

Lack of concentration.

• What brought on your fascination with memorabilia?

I collected old real photo postcards. I discovered that Postcards told the story of early Boxing from 1906. For most every major fight, box cameras took real photo postcards to sell to public or to send home. I also found that big time collectors had them in their collections and were affordable to buy. I started a trend and even a book.

• Please share a little about your life away from the sport.

I breed and show Bantam Chickens called Polish. My wife and I travel to shows across the country.

• How would you like the boxing community to remember you?

I started as an amateur volunteer moved to a leadership role in boxing and became a professional

judge.